. >> do you have any exception to him wanting to apparently categorize as joe biden who jumped in before him about genuine equality for anyone who's gay and that involves if they want to get married in america, they want to get married. >> when the president says half the things he says, i'm not sure what he means by them. for me to characterize cryptic remarks in an inaugural address. if you're asking me how i feel i think that america has as its goal equality and also fairness. when you ask people, jake tapper, and welcome to cnn, jake, had those poll numbers about do you want your member of congress to vote for president obama's efforts to reduce gun violence, you get one answer. when you ask do you want the government to ban certain things, you get quite another answer. and that's because we have a sense of not just of equality in the country but fairness. >> you've been laughing here. what's amusing here? >> what's amusing to me is we're making such a big deal about it. we all live our lives, right? i think on a day-to-day basis, we accept the people around us. we have to go to work